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    Assad to play Kurdish card against Turkey

    Syria is looking to destabilize Turkey by providing greater autonomy to the Arab republic’s Kurdish population in the wake of Ankara’s demands that Damascus heed the demands of the country’s opposition, French daily Le Figaro has reported.

    The Bashar al-Assad government has begun to support the Kurdish people living in Syria’s north, which is reportedly home to 1.9 million Kurds, in an attempt to pose a threat to Turkey in its fight against the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), daily Hürriyet quoted the daily as saying yesterday.

    Assad has taken advantage of the current crisis in the country to establish a “Kurdish autonomous region” in Syria in the event that he falls from power in a similar fashion to Col. Moammar Gadhafi in Libya.

    The president has been preparing the ground for a Kurdish autonomous regional administration by opening Kurdish schools in the country’s north, reported Le Figaro, adding that the language of instruction was Kurdish and that the Kurdish anthem was sung every day.

    The daily also claimed that Assad permitted Kurdish politician Muhammad Salih Muslim, the head of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), which is seen as a PKK affiliate, to return to Syria as a message to Turkey. Muslim was in exile in Iraq until the protests against Assad began in Syria earlier this year.

    The PYD is reportedly organizing local elections in the north, the daily said.

    The newspaper said accepting the Kurdish politician into Syria must be seen as an action to “punish [Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip] Erdoğan for harshly objecting to Syria’s crackdown on its dissidents.”

    “It is no coincidence that Muslim has been elected as the deputy head of the Democratic Change Committee Coordination, which was founded by the Syrian regime, shortly after returning from exile,” said the daily. “The PYD is staying away from the Syrian National Council [SNC] which was founded in Istanbul because it believes that the SNC is backed by Western powers and is against the PKK.”

    The assassination of Mashaal Tammo on Oct. 7, a Kurdish opposition leader in Syria, was also a message to Syrian Kurds that a “good Kurd” was one supported by the regime, according to Le Figaro.

    Assad to play ‘Kurdish card against Turkey, report says - Hurriyet Daily News
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    So Kerman, this confirms what you've been saying recently about Iranian-Syrian compact with PKK against the Turks. If Syria decides to relinquish its section of Kurdistan, then that really does set the stage.

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    Next to the return of Muhammad Salih Muslim, the leader of the Syrian PKK, back to Syria, there have been other signals showing how Turkish support for Syrian opposition is actualy driving Kurds in Syria way from the opposition and towards Turkey. Here are some quotes:

    About general Kurdish boycot (of all 12 parites) of the May 31, opposition summit in Antalya Turkey:
    'Any such meeting held in Turkey can only be a detriment to the Kurds in Syria, because Turkey is against the aspirations of the Kurds, not just with regards to northern Kurdistan, but in all four parts of Kurdistan, including the Kurdish region of Syria.' - National Movement of Kurdish Parties in Syria
    'We, the Kurds in Syria, do not trust Turkey or its policies, and that is why we have decided to boycott the summit.' - Saleh Kado
    Kurdistan Commentary, "Syrian Kurdish Parties Boycott Syrian Opposition Conference in Antalya, Turkey"

    On the boycot of the late August Istanbul summit which created the Syrian National Council (Syrian version of NTC in Libya and JMP in Yemen):
    “Turkey is against the Kurds…in all parts of the world,”
    “If Turkey doesn’t give rights to its 25 million Kurds, how can it defend the rights of the Syrian people and the Kurds there?” - Shelal Gado
    Rudaw in English....The Happening: Latest News and Multimedia about Kurdistan, Iraq and the World - Most Syrian Kurdish Parties Boycott Opposition Gathering

    On Turkish "intervention" in Syria:
    If Turkey were to intervene against Assad, the PKK would fight on Syria's side. - Cemil Bayik
    Recently, Mashaal Tammo, the only Kurdish leader which cooperated with the SNC was killed in Qamsilo, according to the West, by al-Assad regime. His party has however accused the PKK of assasinating him on behalf of Assad:
    "The PYD did its best "to make this demonstration weaker, smaller and not important. They do not support the protests. They had threatened Mashaal many times. They attacked my house in Damascus, and they told me, exactly, 'We will kill you and kill Mashaal ... not by night but by day.' " - Hervin Ose
    The PKK responded by accusing Turkey of the assasination:
    "Most probably the assassination [was] carried out by those who wanted to break up the unity of the Kurdish opposition. The PYD already said that this assassination against a Kurdish politician [was] carried out by Turkey. Turkey already has a very profound history record of political assassinations on the Kurdish people and other ethnic backgrounds, both in Turkey and in the region." - Roj Welat
    KurdishGlobe- Syria's Kurds: are they about to join the uprising against Assad?
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    I will support kurds against the turks.
    Last edited by HEAVEN; 11-11-2011 at 03:04 PM. Reason: Changing my comment.
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    Kerman, on second thoughts, reading about Tammo's assassination, it looks like Assad is using promises of Kurdish autonomy to keep the opposition divided, but will be ruthless if he himself is opposed. Nothing concrete in terms of relinquishing control of Syrian Kurdistan yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by partha View Post
    Kerman, on second thoughts, reading about Tammo's assassination, it looks like Assad is using promises of Kurdish autonomy to keep the opposition divided, but will be ruthless if he himself is opposed. Nothing concrete in terms of relinquishing control of Syrian Kurdistan yet.
    From a Kurdish perspective this guy was a traitor anyway, ***licker of the Arabs he was and one to suck up to the West and the Turks aswell. He was one of those, I love Syria over Kurdistan guys, and he was itching to jump in bed with Israel and Turkey the moment he heared of the uprising. Note how only two of twelve Kurdish parties joined the SNC, one was his. He is of no value to Iran or Syria strategicaly because he had no interest in creating a Kurdish (and thus resisting Turkey), all he wanted was to help the West topple al-Assad regime. And he's not the first political opponent to be assasinated by Assad anyway.

    Anyway, Syria isn't relinquishing Kurdistan, but the thing is, Syria is of little concern, it's just a small Kurdish enclave of a million people, meanwhile there are over 20 million Kurds in Turkey, that's where Kurdish nationailsm and militancy is strongest, the homeland of the PKK, and that's where their primary concern is. First of all the Arab opposition is in bed with the Turks so they won't give Kurds any rights anyway, but even if they would, the PKK would much rather gain valuable state support from Syria and Iran, to improve their fight against Erdogan regime in Turkey.

    Note: From 3.5 thousand casualties, 14 (or 0.4%) were Kurds (one of which was this Tammo guy), so that just goes to prove, if the PKK says don't participate, then Kurds don't participate. No matter what the media says, numbers don't lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEAVEN View Post
    As much as i dont like kurds, i will support them against the turks.
    You know I'm a Kurd?

    watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermanshahan View Post
    You know I'm a Kurd?

    watch it.
    Are you one of those persian loving ones, or the ones that hate us?
    i met so many turks that said we persian should be killed off and so on. so obviously i dont have a good impression of them. my cousin ali and uncle abdi were killed by kurdish, and they actually used to say kurds should be a part of Iran.
    Anyway as i said i support kurds against turks, but kurds need to realize they are persian and stop hating us, not saying your one of the kurds that hate Iranians.
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    Also my grandfather (dads father) was a kurd, and he was always very nasty to me and my mum, and he used to say things like you are waste of space and so on, so may be he contributed to my impression of kurds. and he did not see himself as a persian.

    If i knew you were a kurd i would had explained my self first before saying that comment.
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    Anyway i am going to apologize to you for that, i should not assume all kurks are the same, i was being stupid, but you should know sometimes people get blinded by something. i dont hate anyone tbh, i am not that type of person, so dont take it to heart.
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