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    Nope , Most of these I didn't know about only due to my lack of knowledge of such a great culture .

    thanks for a very useful post .

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    Read a letter about Iran in today's Asia Times, by an American reader. Deserves to be posted here! :)
    Asia Times Online :: Letters

    Ho hum. Another day, another round of punitive sanctions on Iran by imperialist stooges. Thing is, Iran and its historic predecessors eat imperialist sanctions for breakfast. Indeed, without them, perhaps the very essence of being Persian disappears. In its ancient heyday, when Cyrus the Great and his progeny were kicking tail and taking names, they were the regional superpower, to whom all trembled and genuflected. Until, of course, they didn't anymore. Blame it on the Greeks, if you will, but ever since the battle of Marathon in 490 BC, Persians have had a complex about not just the West but also its Arab neighbors. Defeated in numerous wars with imperial Greece and Rome and the later Muslim empires, the Persians always persevered and survived, either by allowing their conquerors to be seduced by Persian culture or making deft and tactful alliances and retreats when necessary. Ironically, they shared this underdog mentality with none other than the Jews, who for centuries predicted Persian salvation from foreign oppression and exile (see how well that prophecy turned out). This siege zeitgeist, forged through centuries of having to live in the shadow of some greater empire, identified Persianness with the essentials of Not-the-Otherness; if the Other religion was Roman paganism or Sunni Islam, Persia would be Zoroastrianism or Shi'ia Islam. If the Other language was Arabic, Persian would be Farsi. The important thing was that Persia had to be different and unique from the "barbarians." Even Reza Pahlavi, the Shahanshah installed by the British and Russians and re-installed by the CIA, recognized that distinction, to the point of discretely assisting nascent Israel against its multiple Arab foes. Far from being an American stooge, Pahlavi dreamed of a new Persian Empire, built on Western technology and sky high oil prices, which he coerced OPEC into jacking up. Alas, like Icarus, Pahlavi didn't realize the closer he got to his goal, the more likely his visionary wings of imperial Persia would melt away. With an economy staggering with the costs of Vietnam and a recession, Washington realized that the Shah was not going to allow the continuation of the oil company dominance of the past, which kept oil prices artificially low in order to prop up Western industries. So the US made a deal with Iran's erstwhile theological enemy, the Saudis, to undermine Iranian-inspired oil production quotas and depress the price of oil. This it did, with the ironic consequence that the crippled Iranian economy helped spark the Islamic Revolution of 1979. Not the first nor the last time that a short-sighted WonderStrategy would backfire on quick-fix blinkered Americans.

    The present regime claims to be different from the Shah in virtually everything, but in the goal of preserving Persianness as a distinct brand, they are soulmates. Wars, invasions, revolutions and sanctions have been and will be the glue that binds Persians together, all united in their conviction that the "barbarians" cannot be allowed to win at any cost.

    Hardy Campbell
    Texas (Dec 5, '11)

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    ^ Interesting historical break down, good read.

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    Did you know Iran is the greatest country in the world?
    "Fighting for something you love is hard, but giving up is even harder"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croatian View Post
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    ...that Iranian armies throught history succesfully conquered India 13 times, and Egypt four times?...
    If you meant "throughout", then it isn't entirely true.

    Not whole of India, mostly the regions of present day Pakistan and parts of North India.

    Quote Originally Posted by Croatian View Post
    ...that ten today's countries around the World in known by Iranian names (including India, Iraq, all with "-stan" sufix)...?
    "-stan" is a Sanskrit suffix also.
    Last edited by nutanayojaka; 07-26-2012 at 07:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutanayojaka View Post
    If you meant "throughout", then it isn't entirely true.

    Not whole of India, mostly the regions of present day Pakistan and parts of North India.





    "-stan" is a Sanskrit suffix also.
    Did you know..how much Sanskrit actually derives from older Persian?

    Many many of our words are also similar/interchange able? Toophan (Tufan) == (Big Storm) :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEAVEN View Post
    Did you know Iran is the greatest country in the world?
    Yes But try telling that to the westernized or american raised youth who turn a blind eye on the atrocities committed by their new flawed "homeland" while hellbent on criticizing and destroying the image of the glorious country of iran and iranian culture.

    look at this scumbag garibzadeh whining about slutting up our women like those western feminist whores



    I hate this people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KermaniDervish View Post
    Did you know..how much Sanskrit actually derives from older Persian?

    Many many of our words are also similar/interchange able? Toophan (Tufan) == (Big Storm) :)
    Yes I know the similarities. But I think Old Sanskrit is related to Avestan.

    Sanskrit is a member of the Indo-Iranian sub-family of the Indo-European family of languages. Its closest ancient relatives are the Iranian languages Old Persian and Avestan.
    Sanskrit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by KermaniDervish View Post
    Yes But try telling that to the westernized or american raised youth who turn a blind eye on the atrocities committed by their new flawed "homeland" while hellbent on criticizing and destroying the image of the glorious country of iran and iranian culture.

    look at this scumbag garibzadeh whining about slutting up our women like those western feminist whores



    I hate this people...
    I feel the kind of sleazy behavior shown in the video(picking boys and girls) should be curtailed. It is a lot worse here in India.


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